John Flyer wrote:My settings: “Ask before pasting password from clipboard“ is checked. If I copy the pw from a Web/App Account record, SP asks me whether I want to paste from the clipboard. No question is asked when I paste the content from a secure memo. Is the clipboard encryption not enabled for secure memos?
John Flyer wrote:If I paste into Open Office Writer, the confirmation question is asked, then Open Offices displays “Requested clipboard format is not available” and nothing is pasted. However, if I press ctrl-v for the second time, the password is pasted without any question.
If I paste into OO Calc, I get the message “The contents of the clipboard could not be pasted” ; all the time, the every other time behavior does not occur in Calc.
It's [Sticky Password Protector], not [Sticky Password Forum], I guess...John Flyer wrote:Notepad: "Ask before pasting" is constantly on, it is not changed after boot. I have never been asked about pasting when Notepad is the target, the result is always “[Sticky Password Forum]”.
What exactly do you "copy from Notepad"? A password? How should it know that the string you copied is a password? It's just a string, a generic string... there is no way to tell that it's actually a password...John Flyer wrote:But when I copy from Notepad to OOo, the real password is pasted without a question. A bit crazy. Do you have another behavior?
This looks like a more or less correct behavior - in the end the password was NOT "compromised", was it?John Flyer wrote:I activated a multi-clipboard program storing the 25 last captures. As soon as I pressed 'copy' SP got “furious”, several confirm questions on the screen, but none of them responded to Yes/No. I had to force a log-off. The multi-clipboard program was unable to store the password, only “Program Specific Clip” showed up.
Given the behavior you described so far I guess my description of the functionality principle is quite correct .John Flyer wrote:I do not like that SP reacts in different ways to different applications.
Petr Pinkas wrote:
Re: Keylogger VS Sticky Password 6
by petr.pinkas » Thu May 24, 2012 12:55 pm
Keylogger will only see "CTRL+V", so it will not log your password. If it will try to access clipboard, it will get value "[Sticky Password Protector]"
That's apparently some incompatibility between EditPlus and the system used by SP. The world is not ideal and SP team can't do tests with every possible application.John Flyer wrote:When I paste into Edit Plus, the control goes to beginning of the file and the first character from the password is pasted.)
Sure. Because you actually used the 3rd file which is a 32bit Notepad. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WoW64John Flyer wrote:I have two instances of notepad.exe, file #1 with size 193,536 byte, timestamp 14.07.2009 03:39, located in C:\Windows. File #2 with size 193,536 byte, timestamp 14.07.2009 03:39, located in C:\Windows\System32 and C:\Windows\SysWOW64.
If I use file#2, SP asks the confirmation question and the pw is properly pasted!!!
Nope. The files 1 and 2 are the same 64-bit notepads and the 3rd notepad.exe in SysWOW64 is 32-bit.John Flyer wrote:My taskbar shortcut points to %windir%\System32\notepad.exe but still file #1 is used (with the crazy result). ????
Sure, it's normal behavior since Vista... it's not a magic, it's just a standard file/folder permissions stuff. Only users with administration rights can do such changes in system (and %ProgramFiles%) folders. Oh, and of course the file can't be locked, e.g. the application can't be running at the time you try to rename the file...John Flyer wrote:I have tried to rename C:\Windows\notepad.exe, but I am not permitted do do so (not in safe mode either).
Of course... because it's a 32-bit Notepad, not 64-bit as you think. Just look in the processes list in Task Manager, it shows "*32" next to 32-bit processes.John Flyer wrote:I have copied file #2 to C:\Windows\notepad_x64.exe and edited the taskbar shortcut to %windir%\notepad_x64.exe. NOW I CAN PASTE THE PW FROM SP WITH “Behavior 1”, that is the proper way.
Man, you should know better about Windows and how things work inside before you start such experiments. It's slowly becoming a mixing apples with oranges... Let's stick with the basic fact that SP is a 32-bit application and as such does not work with 64-bit applications. So any experiments in 64-bit area WON'T WORK.John Flyer wrote:I do not understand this strange issues, but this discussion with Evzen has been of great value to me. Thanks!
That is a kind of diversion. I am not experimenting in the 64-bit area. I am trying to get the utmost outcome of my SP installation. I have been forced to use the clipboard/Notepad along with SP due to a non-floating Secure Memo window and due to SP's lack of ability to handle login processes with two pages.Evzen wrote:Man, you should know better about Windows and how things work inside before you start such experiments. It's slowly becoming a mixing apples with oranges... Let's stick with the basic fact that SP is a 32-bit application and as such does not work with 64-bit applications. So any experiments in 64-bit area WON'T WORK.
That's all just fine as long as you consider yourself "a Joe Average".John Flyer wrote:Once again, thanks for your clarifications. I have heard about 'symbolic links' introduced in Vista, but I have not cared very much.
Another issue I have had, is how to determine whether you are running a 32b or a 64b program. I know how to distinguish the IE9 versions, but how to do that in a generic way?
As soon as you started experimenting with all the Notepad copies and pastes you DID start experimenting in the 64-bit area. You just didn't know about that. But that's a different story...John Flyer wrote:I am not experimenting in the 64-bit area. I am trying to get the utmost outcome of my SP installation.
Are you sure it's not possible to solve it? It's not possible to create separate account for each of the two pages (and tie the accounts to the particular page instead of entire website in its settings)?John Flyer wrote:I have been forced to use the clipboard/Notepad along with SP due to a non-floating Secure Memo window and due to SP's lack of ability to handle login processes with two pages.
And that's how it works. You can run SP on both 32-bit and 64-bit OS, however only 32-bit applications are supported on 64-bit OS.John Flyer wrote:According to the product information - “32-bit applications/browsers are supported on 32-bit or 64-bit systems” - I should be able to run SP on my Win7x64 computer.
Well, you can't blame SP for that, can you?John Flyer wrote:I have never bothered whether the installed Notepad is a 32 or a 64 bit program.
Evzen wrote:Well, you can't blame SP for that, can you?
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